Mask muffled the words so this makes it more harder for people who are hearing impaired. Like me I have a card says below. because it hasn’t come throw Ministry of Health.
The card I showed to people and carry on me says:
“Hi am hard of hearing. My name is Roger sorry I need to see your LIPS to read your lips. If you can’t remove your mask can you please write it down so I can understand what you are saying? Thanks for your help and your understanding.”
I have been refuse at shops and help at council because of my hearing loss. I have showed them my card to help them, so they can help me.
I was taken to hospital by Ambulance one of the nurse made it so hard of me but the doctor was great. I have put a complaint into the DHB. part of the complain below.
Nurse this time didn’t remove mask to read lips nor write it for me the Mask muffled the words so this makes it more harder for me and for the nurse. She thought just because I have hearing aids that I should be able to hear everything.
When I got discharged sometime just as it got daylight, I am not sure of the time, I had no phone with me, and the nurse refused to phone someone to come and pick me up, she pointed to the door so I had to walk home in bare feet and confused. I am unsure how long it took to get home, my wife was about to phone the hospital as I walked through the door approximately 7.30am. I was unable to tell her what happened at the hospital, what she knew for most of the day was what she found on the discharge summary she found on the kitchen table.
The Ministry of Health states:
“If you are someone who relies on New Zealand Sign Language and/or reading people’s facial expressions, including lip reading, or need to communicate with someone who does, you can remove your mask or face covering to communicate, but you must maintain a physical distance of two metres”.
“In general, you should wear a face covering whenever you can. The Delta/Omicorn variant is more transmissible and face coverings are a way we can protect ourselves and each other. Where possible you must maintain a physical distance of two metres when you cannot wear a face covering”.
Who is going to put their hand up to become a representative for ALL disabilities? All of these issues that are sounded out, written forward are genuine and legitimate claims to improve and work towards future success in change of law, change in behavior and positive attitude towards viable outcomes for those minority groups that have no voice, (mute) are afraid to speak up,does not comprehend or thought patterns confused or slow, limitations in limbs or none, blind, obese or too thin, how can we claim access if our support systems are exhausted, ignored or not even acknowledged because it falls into the criteria of ‘the too hard basket’. Everyday is a challenge, other stresses become compounded to those individual cases already coping with hardship and frustration because of inaccessibility or do not fall into a specific criteria (if you fit in this circle you can pass, if you don’t your out). You can have this alone, take it or go without. I would like Alliance Accessible to be a new name, I would like all areas that people use to be accessed and made clear for those able to learn these in schooling, education, Healthcare settings, tourism, hospitality politics and Media platforms, we do it for a Pandemic, use the same principle for Acessible Alliance. For whenever a disability occurs in different stages of life, either born with, caused by accident, incident or defect, overtime dementia or weakness of limbs, eyes or hearing impairment, it’s a part of life and living a quality of life and healthy wellbeing affects us holistically. Keep up the great work you are doing you have my support 👍.
Question 1:
In your own words, what do you think the objectives or goals of the system should be?
The over arching aim is to make Aotearoa fully accessible in every aspect such that disabled people are able to participate fully in all aspects of society and do not face barriers to living full lives.
To ensure that all buildings meet Universal Design Standards.
To ensure that a diverse range of disabled voices are actively consulted at every point in the process. On this point only allowing a week for consultation in an access fail. Many disabled people take longer to process information for a diverse range of reasons ranging from the format to peoples energy levels.
To ensure that all staff are fully trained on a diverse range of access needs.
Question 2
What should the Board be called?
Board of Accessibility Issues
What are some of the expected behaviours/attributes that you want Board members to demonstrate?
All members should have lived experience of disability and a wide range of disabilities should be represented by members.
Members should be fully committed to: the ethos “Nothing about us, without us”, the UNCRPD, and have a full understanding of the social model of disability.
Members should cover a diverse age range as agism is a huge issue in accessibility issues for older disabled people.
Māori and Pacific disabled communities should be represented.
Mental health disabilities should be included and represented.
What do you think the ratio between those appointed by the Minister vs nominated the community should be?
The board should be fully appointed by disabled communities with consultation from the Minister. We have already seen a failure of input by disabled communities in the appointment of a non-disabled interim director of the Ministry for Disabled people. We will not stand for this being repeated.
For the community nominations, how do you think this should happen?
Minister establish a nominating committee of disabled community members: Positions should be advertised and Disabled peoples Organisations should access applications and give feedback and recommendations applicants to the committee. The committee should rely on the recommendations of the disabled community for appointments and to ensure that the board is a diverse representation of the disabled community.
Question 3:
What responsibilities should the board have to be accountable and responsive to disability communities?
The board must be transparent and ensure that all consultation takes place in an accessible way. I hope we don’t see consultation like this again, which is completely inaccessible to anyone with intellectual disability, any disability of literacy, anyone who needs extra time to process and output information. It is laughable that we are consulting on disability accessibility and accountability for accessibility using an entirely inaccessible process.
The board needs to take time frames into consideration consultation takes time, they need to use accessible language. Words like “accountable” and “responsive” are not accessible. They need to take into account that disabled people have lives outside of advocacy and their time is as precious a resource as everyone else’s. When a single individual tells you, that they have an access issue, then you listen because that single persons access matters. Chances are it represents many, many people who have simply given up on access.
The accessibility legislation will impact all areas of life in New Zealand. What are some of the other groups apart from disabled people that will be impacted by the system? How should the board engage with these groups?
Young families, the elderly, women and Māori. I have been a mother unable to access a building because I have a baby in a pram. Access issues are applicable to everyone. Young families input can be accessed through social media, parenting groups such as Parent Centre or Play Centre. Organisations such as Age concern are stake holders in this. Rest homes can be visited. Women’s health and childcare are applicable access concern areas. Again social media is a hugely relevant tool for access to these groups. I can not speak to Māori access concerns as I am not Māori but I believe this group is heavily marginalised in this respect.
Question 1: Ensure that the outdated building code is brought up to Universal Design standards and that the persons making determinations on building code issues seek advice from persons in the disability sector to ensure that all views are undertaken. Often persons that provide information and advise are only looking at access issues from their view point and their comments are taken to represent all persons with disabilities.
Question 2.
2a: Name – Department of Accessibility Issues
2b: Behaviours/Attributes
• Lived experience of disability
• Ability to listen to other disabled person’s views
• Ability to put disabled people’s views first
• Representation of whānau
• Capability and capability to deal with a large number of issues
• Diverse experiences across the board
• Knowledge of government systems
• Knowledge of tikanga Māori
• Transparency
• Ability to work as a team
• Ability to identify own areas where knowledge is limited
• Not afraid to ask for help
2c: Ratio: Ministry appointed – 3, Community appointed – 5
Community appointed- Positions should be advertised and then those names circulated among the disability sector such as the Federation of Disability Information Centres who can ensure that the names and details are circulated to all organisations etc in the disability sector.
Question 3
3a: Accountability to the disability sector
Transparency before making decisions that affect others. Regular reporting and updates to be circulated to such organisations such as the Federation of Disability Information Centres to ensure that information is passed to all organisations.
3b: legislation will impact on all New Zealanders.
An example of this is the height that the MoH suggested QR code posters be mounted. The top no higher than 1300mm. How many are mounted higher than this? Quite a few.
While this is not a legislation issue, there are heights in the outdated NZS4121:2001 legislation that should have been used.
The Board should engage local representatives to organise Hui’s s to ensure input is obtained from all parties. This will give the opportunity for all to understand the importance of legislation etc. For example it would help builders contractors etc to understand why for example plugs, switches, door opening buttons etc should be mounted between 900mm and 1200mm and no closer than 500mm to an internal corner.
1 Objective: To make Aotearoa New Zealand accessible to all people by removing barriers to participation in all aspects of society.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
1 Objective: To make Aotearoa New Zealand accessible to all people by removing barriers to participation in all aspects of society.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
1 Objective: To make Aotearoa New Zealand accessible to all people by removing barriers to participation in all aspects of society.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
Hi there my husband has had an injury since 2007, due to countless operations and infections, it was decided by Health Professionals in 2020 the actual implant was removed, leaving my husband with a permanent injury nil shoulder. There is no record to date of non shoulder injuries, no records of recovery from one and we have been left to fend for ourselves because my husband is also a Stage 4 Cancer sufferer. His quality of life is ongoing chronic pain, fatigue and anxiety with Covid-19 mutations, everyday is a constant stress to reduce his unpredictable life living, not knowing if this day will be his last. I am his full-time carer and advocate, he is limited to using his good arm which does most of any work lopsided, his posture is crooked standing upright with a hunched back and has to use a sling to carry his arm everyday when ever he moves, his pain is excruciating, the tumor is on the same side of his non shoulder. Medical professionals are unsure if it’s feeding on weakness of his impairment as its aggressively growing within upper chest, and back of his left shoulder. Toilets with handle support are limited, in clubs, RSAs, ramps signage and rooms available are lacking, accessible places for children are not considered in family-friendly areas, lifts are not available for easier use, stairways are okay if you are able to use, safety measures and proper ventilation in cafes, restaurants and public facilities should be available for all guests and should be spaced out with room to move, we are not all same size or shape and cost cutting should not be an excuse to do things properly and lasting more than a few weeks, months. Council need to address these issues.
Public Disability Toilet I agree like in Tokoroa there is no room to move around for a career to help, and for disability dog. like some toilet I can’t take my server dog in. been to council they said this what we got when they built a new toilet. when it was in the drawing planes Council did not listen to us. This is to small.
Within NZ Person/s attack, rushed at or injury threatening or scaring Disability/Service Dog total 5 Rushed at or attacked a Disability/Service Dog. In the CDB by a Pet/Family dog going to the shop. Taupo 15/01/2021 1 Guide dog has his ear bitten by a pet/family dog in the CBD they went to council.
Within NZ Dog/s left outside shop in CBD on leads tided up so the pet dog having ago (rushing, barking etc.) or will not let Disability/Service dog to go into shop the owner of the pet dog do NOT know that the dog is doing when the owner inside the shop, within NZ Total 399. IN NZ Pet/family Dogs pooing and pissing in the CBD within NZ Total 295
Dog is a dog but our Disability/Service DOGS are train to go to toilet to smell other pet dog business is not on in the CBD. This show that people do not pick up the dog poo and do not care.
Under GOVT Dog Control Act 1996 work safe Act 2015, Humans Right Act 1993, Health Act 1956, Bill of rights Act 1990 All Disability/Service Dogs are been put at risk with pet/family dogs in the CBD, without fear of attack or intimidation by Pet family dogs. The DUTY of CARE for our service dog where is it?
Including disabled people in discussions and not replacing them with able bodied academics as what’s been happening in the past 15 years would be a great start. I have a big problem when we are travelling to find a unisex disabled toilet. I have to toilet my husband and there’s very few places where both him and I can go. Others must be in this same situation which needs fixing urgently as it is a health hazard
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“Hi am hard of hearing. My name is Roger sorry I need to see your LIPS to read your lips. If you can’t remove your mask can you please write it down so I can understand what you are saying? Thanks for your help and your understanding.”
I have been refuse at shops and help at council because of my hearing loss. I have showed them my card to help them, so they can help me.
I was taken to hospital by Ambulance one of the nurse made it so hard of me but the doctor was great. I have put a complaint into the DHB. part of the complain below.
Nurse this time didn’t remove mask to read lips nor write it for me the Mask muffled the words so this makes it more harder for me and for the nurse. She thought just because I have hearing aids that I should be able to hear everything.
When I got discharged sometime just as it got daylight, I am not sure of the time, I had no phone with me, and the nurse refused to phone someone to come and pick me up, she pointed to the door so I had to walk home in bare feet and confused. I am unsure how long it took to get home, my wife was about to phone the hospital as I walked through the door approximately 7.30am. I was unable to tell her what happened at the hospital, what she knew for most of the day was what she found on the discharge summary she found on the kitchen table.
The Ministry of Health states:
“If you are someone who relies on New Zealand Sign Language and/or reading people’s facial expressions, including lip reading, or need to communicate with someone who does, you can remove your mask or face covering to communicate, but you must maintain a physical distance of two metres”.
“In general, you should wear a face covering whenever you can. The Delta/Omicorn variant is more transmissible and face coverings are a way we can protect ourselves and each other. Where possible you must maintain a physical distance of two metres when you cannot wear a face covering”.
For more details please click on link below:
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/covid-19-use-masks-and-face-coverings-community#removal
Many thanks be safe.
In your own words, what do you think the objectives or goals of the system should be?
The over arching aim is to make Aotearoa fully accessible in every aspect such that disabled people are able to participate fully in all aspects of society and do not face barriers to living full lives.
To ensure that all buildings meet Universal Design Standards.
To ensure that a diverse range of disabled voices are actively consulted at every point in the process. On this point only allowing a week for consultation in an access fail. Many disabled people take longer to process information for a diverse range of reasons ranging from the format to peoples energy levels.
To ensure that all staff are fully trained on a diverse range of access needs.
Question 2
What should the Board be called?
Board of Accessibility Issues
What are some of the expected behaviours/attributes that you want Board members to demonstrate?
All members should have lived experience of disability and a wide range of disabilities should be represented by members.
Members should be fully committed to: the ethos “Nothing about us, without us”, the UNCRPD, and have a full understanding of the social model of disability.
Members should cover a diverse age range as agism is a huge issue in accessibility issues for older disabled people.
Māori and Pacific disabled communities should be represented.
Mental health disabilities should be included and represented.
What do you think the ratio between those appointed by the Minister vs nominated the community should be?
The board should be fully appointed by disabled communities with consultation from the Minister. We have already seen a failure of input by disabled communities in the appointment of a non-disabled interim director of the Ministry for Disabled people. We will not stand for this being repeated.
For the community nominations, how do you think this should happen?
Minister establish a nominating committee of disabled community members: Positions should be advertised and Disabled peoples Organisations should access applications and give feedback and recommendations applicants to the committee. The committee should rely on the recommendations of the disabled community for appointments and to ensure that the board is a diverse representation of the disabled community.
Question 3:
What responsibilities should the board have to be accountable and responsive to disability communities?
The board must be transparent and ensure that all consultation takes place in an accessible way. I hope we don’t see consultation like this again, which is completely inaccessible to anyone with intellectual disability, any disability of literacy, anyone who needs extra time to process and output information. It is laughable that we are consulting on disability accessibility and accountability for accessibility using an entirely inaccessible process.
The board needs to take time frames into consideration consultation takes time, they need to use accessible language. Words like “accountable” and “responsive” are not accessible. They need to take into account that disabled people have lives outside of advocacy and their time is as precious a resource as everyone else’s. When a single individual tells you, that they have an access issue, then you listen because that single persons access matters. Chances are it represents many, many people who have simply given up on access.
The accessibility legislation will impact all areas of life in New Zealand. What are some of the other groups apart from disabled people that will be impacted by the system? How should the board engage with these groups?
Young families, the elderly, women and Māori. I have been a mother unable to access a building because I have a baby in a pram. Access issues are applicable to everyone. Young families input can be accessed through social media, parenting groups such as Parent Centre or Play Centre. Organisations such as Age concern are stake holders in this. Rest homes can be visited. Women’s health and childcare are applicable access concern areas. Again social media is a hugely relevant tool for access to these groups. I can not speak to Māori access concerns as I am not Māori but I believe this group is heavily marginalised in this respect.
Question 2.
2a: Name – Department of Accessibility Issues
2b: Behaviours/Attributes
• Lived experience of disability
• Ability to listen to other disabled person’s views
• Ability to put disabled people’s views first
• Representation of whānau
• Capability and capability to deal with a large number of issues
• Diverse experiences across the board
• Knowledge of government systems
• Knowledge of tikanga Māori
• Transparency
• Ability to work as a team
• Ability to identify own areas where knowledge is limited
• Not afraid to ask for help
2c: Ratio: Ministry appointed – 3, Community appointed – 5
Community appointed- Positions should be advertised and then those names circulated among the disability sector such as the Federation of Disability Information Centres who can ensure that the names and details are circulated to all organisations etc in the disability sector.
Question 3
3a: Accountability to the disability sector
Transparency before making decisions that affect others. Regular reporting and updates to be circulated to such organisations such as the Federation of Disability Information Centres to ensure that information is passed to all organisations.
3b: legislation will impact on all New Zealanders.
An example of this is the height that the MoH suggested QR code posters be mounted. The top no higher than 1300mm. How many are mounted higher than this? Quite a few.
While this is not a legislation issue, there are heights in the outdated NZS4121:2001 legislation that should have been used.
The Board should engage local representatives to organise Hui’s s to ensure input is obtained from all parties. This will give the opportunity for all to understand the importance of legislation etc. For example it would help builders contractors etc to understand why for example plugs, switches, door opening buttons etc should be mounted between 900mm and 1200mm and no closer than 500mm to an internal corner.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
2a Name: Accessibility Commission
2b In addition to the list of behaviours and attitudes:
Ability to listen
Ability to think critically and creatively about solutions.
Ability to understand and appreciate the diversity and complexity of the disability community
Capacity and capability to deal with a large number of issues.
2c 3 people appointed by the minister and 5 people appointed by the community.
Public election conducted by DPA or DPO coalition seeking nominations from disability community.
3a. Accountability to the disability sector
Regular reports on the work of the commission publicize throughout the disability sector inviting comments to the commission. Also engaging with groups of disabled people particularly those who don’t comment very much.
b. Beyond the disability sector: elderly people, young families, migrant families, people who are poor. The other important groups to engage with are planners. architects and people who work with infra structure. Engagement would be a mixture of focus groups and educational opportunities.
Within NZ Person/s attack, rushed at or injury threatening or scaring Disability/Service Dog total 5 Rushed at or attacked a Disability/Service Dog. In the CDB by a Pet/Family dog going to the shop. Taupo 15/01/2021 1 Guide dog has his ear bitten by a pet/family dog in the CBD they went to council.
Within NZ Dog/s left outside shop in CBD on leads tided up so the pet dog having ago (rushing, barking etc.) or will not let Disability/Service dog to go into shop the owner of the pet dog do NOT know that the dog is doing when the owner inside the shop, within NZ Total 399. IN NZ Pet/family Dogs pooing and pissing in the CBD within NZ Total 295
Dog is a dog but our Disability/Service DOGS are train to go to toilet to smell other pet dog business is not on in the CBD. This show that people do not pick up the dog poo and do not care.
Under GOVT Dog Control Act 1996 work safe Act 2015, Humans Right Act 1993, Health Act 1956, Bill of rights Act 1990 All Disability/Service Dogs are been put at risk with pet/family dogs in the CBD, without fear of attack or intimidation by Pet family dogs. The DUTY of CARE for our service dog where is it?